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LOVE THE SINNER..............HATE THE SIN





This page is for those who agree with the fact that pre-marigable sex is wrong, and that being gay is wrong, and all the other stuff. But it is also for those who believe that you should lover the sinner despite their ways, but you should hate their sins.


Fellow Lovers of Sinners Memebers Page

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Good Passages from the Bible





THE STRAIGHT WAY
Please join that wiki if you agree with it's message.






LET ME MAKE ONE THING PERFECTLY CLEAR!



We do not HATE the sinners! We try to love them like God loves them despite their sins like he loves us.



Let me make another thing clear.

This is a wiki for those who agree with me and POC's views, not for those who have different views and come to bother us with theirs. It is your opion and I will respect that.


AND PLEASE BEFORE YOU DECIDE TO WRITE A COMMENT ABOUT GAY PEOPLE, PLEASE DO US AND YOURSELF A FAVOR AND "READ THIS WIKI, BEFORE COMMENTING ON WHAT BAD CHRISTIANS WE ARE OR WHATEVER NASTY THINGS YOU HAVE TO SAY TO US!" Yeah and 1 more thing, if you leave a rude and mean comment to us we will ignore it and I will personally delete it.




When you join please add yourself to the Fellow Lovers of Sinners Memebers Page Thanks!


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Daniel 6 : 27 'Trust'

"He deliveret and rescueth, and he worketh signs and wonders in heaven and in earth,
who hath delivered Daniel from the power of the lions."


This is a painting I made for a youth church service.
It's about trusting God, we must trust Him in all the things we do, even when were in trouble.
Like Daniel did.

This painting is expressing my fealings very well, thats why it's special for me.

[hji]


Owners are [Blaze the Nameless] and [Leelo]

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2004-04-10 [dani california 311]: in some of the stories i read,it did

2004-04-10 [Blaze the Nameless]: See?

2004-04-10 [dani california 311]: idk if she is still on

2004-04-10 [Blaze the Nameless]: I don't think so.

2004-04-10 [dani california 311]: yeah,but how r u?

2004-04-10 [Blaze the Nameless]: Great! and you?

2004-04-10 [dani california 311]: good. just got back from my party

2004-04-10 [Blaze the Nameless]: Cool.

2004-04-10 [dani california 311]: yeah, 13 tommorow! i cant wait!

2004-04-10 [Kiddalee]: I'll have to comment on your phrase "being gay is wrong". If homosexuality were a state of being, it would not be wrong, for the person would have no control over their sexual orientation. Homosexuality is an act, not a state of being (although we have all been told it can't be helped), thus the reason why being against the action is not discriminatory. Ask biologists and doctors, and they will tell you that they have found no evidence of a "homosexual" gene that would force a person to "be" gay or lesbian. Of course, these doctors have been hidden by those who control the media...

2004-04-10 [dani california 311]: yeah

2004-04-10 [Blaze the Nameless]: Well if it can not be helped then that is perfectly fine.

2004-04-10 [dani california 311]: yeah, srry. i am coming off the sugar high now, i might go take a nap. go to my page if i dont respond in 3 minutes to the next response

2004-04-11 [Kiddalee]: Erm... just because he mentioned "male prostitutes" instead of just saying "prostitutes", it doesn't mean that female prostitution is alright. It sounds to me like you're twisting the context of the verse to fit your own arguements. Also, the Bible gives verses against wife and child abuse. When it says that the husband is to have authority over the household, it doesn't mean that he is supreme dictator over his wife, it means that he is to be respected for taking all the responsibility for the spiritual climate of the family. Sexist societies throughout history had taken these verses out of proportion or out of context.

2004-04-11 [Blaze the Nameless]: I agree. My bible teacher said once when he was in the army that his generel threatened he would give the man the boot if he ever abused his wife and child. Any man who does that does not deserve to have a family.

2004-04-11 [Athene Noctua]: To [Kiddalee], about your comment on the homosexual gene...your obvious dearth of knowledge on the subject of molecular biology is really astounding. I'm impressed by your ignorance of genomics.

2004-04-11 [ravenna]: Pfff, so if there's no gene for being gay, does that mean there's no gene for being straight? If so then I, according to your logic, would be justified in being prejudiced against straight people if I were.

2004-04-11 [Athene Noctua]: Of course there is no gene for being gay or straight. And [ravenna], there is no justification of being prejudiced toward anyone, regardless of DNA composition.

2004-04-11 [ravenna]: I know that..... I'm arguing against [Kiddalee] and trying to show her that her defense makes no sense.

2004-04-11 [dani california 311]: idk. i am just on this site for [Leelo]! dont look at me

2004-04-11 [Blaze the Nameless]: *sigh* There may be a rare occasion that a man or woman may have a gene that makes them gay. Some people become gay because they were hurt before.

2004-04-11 [dani california 311]: yeah, which is why i dont judge. u dont know why they r they way they r or why they do what they do

2004-04-11 [Blaze the Nameless]: Thats a good way to look at it!

2004-04-11 [dani california 311]: yeah, thanks. my aunt taught me that

2004-04-11 [Blaze the Nameless]: You're aunt is wise and smart.

2004-04-11 [dani california 311]: yeah, i will tell her that when i see her later at my family celebration

2004-04-11 [Athene Noctua]: There are no genes that make people gay. Rather, a more logical and scientifically grounded explanation is that the multiple expression of various proteins by a collection of genes (analog effect) creates a different chemical balance in the brain. :)

2004-04-11 [Blaze the Nameless]: *claps* Bravo!

2004-04-11 [Athene Noctua]: Can you say "Science geek?" :D

2004-04-11 [Blaze the Nameless]: Geeks are cute!

2004-04-11 [Athene Noctua]: Heh heh, I think so too. :)

2004-04-11 [Blaze the Nameless]: LOL!

2004-04-12 [dani california 311]: they r

2004-04-12 [Blaze the Nameless]: I like geeky guys!

2004-04-12 [dani california 311]: oh, i hang with them

2004-04-12 [Blaze the Nameless]: Cool!

2004-04-12 [dani california 311]: thanks,but i also hang with pop. guys too,and only the tomboys r my friends,which classifies me as a tomboy

2004-04-12 [Blaze the Nameless]: I have a switch personallity. Sometimes I'm gurly but most of the time I'm the arsty, tomboyish, punky girl.

2004-04-12 [dani california 311]: yeah. i hate the all-gurly gurls

2004-04-12 [Blaze the Nameless]: I mean whats the point in liking a girl just because she's pretty?

2004-04-12 [dani california 311]: i know,what about the fact that she is so afraid of a bug u have to kill it or go through gurly things because she is hot? a tomboy can do things for herself.i am proud to be a tomboy

2004-04-12 [Blaze the Nameless]: Me 2! I mean the perfect girl friend is someone who can be a boyfriend's girl but a friend at the same time.

2004-04-12 [dani california 311]: yeah,like me

2004-04-12 [Blaze the Nameless]: And me!

2004-04-12 [dani california 311]: cool

2004-04-12 [Blaze the Nameless]: ^______________________^

2004-04-12 [dani california 311]: ok.........................

2004-04-12 [Kiddalee]: You can be feminine and still not be afraid of bugs. You don't have to be a tomboy to be independant. Why is that term still used???

2004-04-12 [dani california 311]: idk, but i know a lot of gurls and they r feminine, aas u put it, and they see an ant and they jump. i agree with u, buti am saying most of them

2004-04-12 [Kiddalee]: Y'mean they're pitiful. I'm not even afraid of bees. I've been stung once and acknowledged that it was my fault for scaring the bee.

2004-04-12 [dani california 311]: i know, i have never been stung though. my friend got all freaked out because she had nevr goten stung and didnt want to see if she was allerigc. it was sad. just walk by it, dont bug it, it wont bug u

2004-04-12 [Blaze the Nameless]: Well I still hate bees. I don't bugs in general. Just bees.

2004-04-12 [dani california 311]: yeah, i am not afraid of bees though

2004-04-12 [Blaze the Nameless]: Well I mean you can still be afraid of certian bugs but that doesn't make you girly.

2004-04-12 [dani california 311]: right, true

2004-04-12 [Leelo]: How did we get on bees?

2004-04-12 [Blaze the Nameless]: LOL!

2004-04-12 [dani california 311]: just read up

2004-04-12 [Leelo]: Yeah I did, it's funny how the subjects can change around(lol)

2004-04-12 [Blaze the Nameless]: I agree!

2004-04-12 [dani california 311]: lol,yeah,they do. we got on it because we were talkig about how gurly gurls hate bugs

2004-04-12 [Blaze the Nameless]: So thats how we got on the subject

2004-04-12 [Leelo]: Yeah it drives me insane when a girl just screams over a bug. My cusin's girlfriend, she's cool and all, she's just preppy(gur;y gurl ishow you two put it)

2004-04-12 [Blaze the Nameless]: You know what else I hate?

2004-04-12 [Leelo]: what???

2004-04-12 [xX.//Standing Up From Underneath//.Xx]: I don't mind bugs. I'm a Tomboy, and I do a whole ton of guy things. How dare a person accuse a person of not being equal because they're a girl!

2004-04-12 [xX.//Standing Up From Underneath//.Xx]: Hey, Have any of you heard of Teen Mania? Or the Teen Mania Family?

2004-04-12 [Blaze the Nameless]: No why?

2004-04-12 [Leelo]: no i haven't why?

2004-04-12 [dani california 311]: who is the new person?

2004-04-12 [Leelo]: dunno..........let's ask...............Hey what's up??

2004-04-12 [xX.//Standing Up From Underneath//.Xx]: When you say 'the new person' I suppose you mean me? If so. Hi! I'm Meg.

2004-04-12 [xX.//Standing Up From Underneath//.Xx]: To know about Teen Mania, go to Yahoo, Search for "Teen Mania" and then go to they're offical site. It's a christain site. =]

2004-04-12 [Blaze the Nameless]: Thanks for the info!

2004-04-13 [Leelo]: yup yup

2004-04-13 [dani california 311]: OK

2004-04-13 [dani california 311]: MEG

2004-04-14 [Leelo]: ok

2004-04-14 [xX.//Standing Up From Underneath//.Xx]: So... Now do you know about Teen Mania Ministries? Tell me what you know so far!!! =D

2004-04-15 [dani california 311]: i know nothing

2004-04-15 [Blaze the Nameless]: I am so bored!

2004-04-15 [dani california 311]: me too! i just woke up from a nap

2004-04-15 [Blaze the Nameless]: Well now my friends are on.

2004-04-15 [dani california 311]: ok

2004-04-15 [deleted, gone]: wow the paintings above are trully amazing!

2004-04-15 [dani california 311]: yep,they r

2004-04-15 [Blaze the Nameless]: I know! [hji] is amazing!

2004-04-16 [dani california 311]: yeah

2004-04-16 [hji]: hmm.. I'm not that good! didn't you saw the painting on the top! thats how a real artist paint!

2004-04-16 [dani california 311]: i like the one u drew and the other one. u r good

2004-04-16 [Leelo]: yep yep^^ You did good no awesome on your painting^^

2004-04-17 [Blaze the Nameless]: [hji] really likes that peice of art. that man has more.

2004-04-17 [dani california 311]: yeah, i agree

2004-04-17 [Leelo]: yup yup

2004-04-17 [Blaze the Nameless]: :)

2004-04-17 [Leelo]: ^^

2004-04-17 [dani california 311]: ok

2004-04-17 [hji]: yeah! thats a artist ^_^

2004-04-17 [dani california 311]: yep

2004-04-18 [Leelo]: yuppity yup yup yup

2004-04-18 [dani california 311]: ok

2004-04-18 [hji]: Is that all you can say? eh.. we need a new subject here... lets see.. what do you think of painting nude people for education?

2004-04-18 [dani california 311]: i think its weird, but if thats what u have to do...................

2004-04-18 [hji]: I have to do it oneday for art school.. but look on it this way! I will paint to learn and manny artist painted eve and adam nude.. and nude is something else than erothic! so.. when I will learn to paint people I have to now how the basic lines of people are... I don't think its wrong.. if I keep my mignt clean of wrong thoughs

2004-04-18 [dani california 311]: u mean eve? and u r right

2004-04-18 [hji]: yeah.. thanks ^_^ I've used the Dutch name.. but its good now..

2004-04-18 [dani california 311]: oh, i didnt know that, didnt mean to correct u

2004-04-18 [hji]: thats oke ^_^.. but what do you think of it?

2004-04-18 [dani california 311]: its ok

2004-04-18 [hji]: do you think it's oke to paint and draw nude people for education?

2004-04-18 [dani california 311]: yeah. it teaches u

2004-04-18 [hji]: exactly! ^_^

2004-04-18 [dani california 311]: yeah

2004-04-18 [Blaze the Nameless]: People! Pay attention to me!

2004-04-18 [dani california 311]: what? we r paying attention! *stares at u*

2004-04-18 [Blaze the Nameless]: Srry! Craving attention right now!

2004-04-18 [dani california 311]: ok, well i am watching u

2004-04-19 [mywolfalways]: Practicing to paint/draw the nude art form is a very good thing. The reason is that things are much easier to draw outside after the inner structure is studied. It's easier to draw clothing after studying the nude figure. It can be equavalent to learning the muscle structure of a horse in order to learn to draw it properly.

2004-04-19 [Leelo]: Yeah drawing nude people is ok, if you are not thinking wierd thoughts^^ BUt me, I'm not a nude artist. I'm afraid to draw nude people(lol) I guess I'm not that kind of artist, not nocking down the artists who do nudist drawings/paintings. I'm just wierd^^

2004-04-19 [mywolfalways]: A lot of people aren't comfortable drawing the nude human form and there isn't anything wrong with that. The thing to keep in mind is that there is a line between nude art and porn. A lot of people don't understand the difference, or don't choose to, and instead decide that anything resembling the nude form is "bad".

2004-04-19 [Leelo]: I know, but I didn't mean it that way. I don't think all of it is wrong, I only think it is wrong when you get nasty thoughts in your head, and start acting immature.

2004-04-19 [mywolfalways]: I knew what you mean, [Leelo]. You stated clearly how you thought about it, I was just finishing a thought. ^_^

2004-04-19 [Leelo]: Ok, sorry I guess I didn't get what you meant(lol)

2004-04-19 [mywolfalways]: No problem. It happens.

2004-04-19 [SnowRose]: Hey! I found this poem online, really short, but good.  Love the sinner, hate the sin.

2004-04-19 [hji]: yep... thats wat I was thinking ^_^ not that I wanted to paint nude people.. but if I do to the Art Collage I will get it.. so... good you think the same as me ^_^

2004-04-19 [Leelo]: ok

2004-04-19 [dani california 311]: yeah, i am lost >: /

2004-04-19 [Leelo]: We were talking about nude paintings

2004-04-19 [dani california 311]: yeah

2004-04-19 [Leelo]: ok, so your not lost now???

2004-04-19 [Blaze the Nameless]: We talked about that in Bible. Why is nude art considered art while porno isn't.

2004-04-19 [dani california 311]: idk, but i think the thing is, no one is humping in nude art. thats the big difference i think

2004-04-19 [Leelo]: well, porn is sexual content ment to please the male species that is what it was made for now, nude art is not ment for that purposeit is ment to show the un imaginable beauty in the human bodyit is made to please the eye, not the mindporn is very sexual? as far as i know... art is not ment to do that

2004-04-19 [hji]: exactly art isn't for porn.. but we talk about drawing nude for education

2004-04-19 [dani california 311]: yeah, what [Leelo] said

2004-04-19 [mywolfalways]: Basically, the difference between nude art and porn is that porn is meant to be sexually explicit, while nude art is for the beauty of the nude form.

2004-04-19 [dani california 311]: yeah

2004-04-19 [hji]: yeah! thats right ^_^

2004-04-19 [dani california 311]: i am agreeing with u all

2004-04-20 [Blaze the Nameless]: I agree as well! I mean I'm sure there was no porn during hte time of Da Vinci and all of them.

2004-04-20 [dani california 311]: yeah, *yawns* good nite. its almost 10 here

2004-04-20 [Leelo]: lol

2004-04-20 [Leelo]: Excactly......How did we get on this subject??? lol

2004-04-20 [mywolfalways]: Uh...somebody brought up the fact they were doing nude paintings for their art class.

2004-04-20 [Blaze the Nameless]: That explains it.

2004-04-20 [Leelo]: Yeah..........lol^^

2004-04-20 [Blaze the Nameless]: I wonder who's it was.

2004-04-20 [hji]: eh.. me! but I didn't draw a nude person.. I was saying that I have to do that when I will go to the Art Collage.. and I was asking what you think about it! ^_^ I have never draw a nude person..

2004-04-20 [Leelo]: lol......nude.............that's a funny word.........lol

2004-04-20 [Blaze the Nameless]: It is a weird word!

2004-04-20 [hji]: why?

2004-04-20 [dani california 311]: yeah

2004-04-20 [Leelo]: I dunno, I guess cuz of the way it rolls off your tounge^^

2004-04-20 [Blaze the Nameless]: Nude! In the nude! Okay, I'm fine really.

2004-04-20 [Leelo]: okies^^

2004-04-20 [dani california 311]: ok then.................

2004-04-21 [Leelo]: anywho..................^^

2004-04-21 [xX.//Standing Up From Underneath//.Xx]: Yeah... let's change the subject... please. So I can join in? No offence, but nude drawings are just... weird to me.  I mean... Ifeel akward just going out of the house with sweat pants on.  Jeans! Yes! Jeans are always the way to go!

2004-04-21 [hji]: ^_^ yep! lets change the subject!

2004-04-21 [Leelo]: I like Jeans

2004-04-21 [Leelo]: They are so comfortable^^, I wear the boot cut kind.

2004-04-21 [xX.//Standing Up From Underneath//.Xx]: I wear all kinds, ever since I was three the only clotes I'd go out of the house in was jeans. My parents told meit was ok to wear other kinds of pants, but I liked jeans.

2004-04-21 [Leelo]: Yeah same here. I like to wear shorts, but I like to wear jean shorts^^

2004-04-21 [dani california 311]: yeah.....................

2004-04-22 [Leelo]: It's funny how we get on these topics^^

2004-04-22 [Blaze the Nameless]: It is!

2004-04-22 [Leelo]: yup

2004-04-22 [Leelo]: So do you like jeans??

2004-04-22 [dani california 311]: me,yeah

2004-04-22 [Leelo]: I was asking it to every one(lol)

2004-04-22 [dani california 311]: i know,just saying

2004-04-22 [Leelo]: lol

2004-04-22 [dani california 311]: G2G

2004-04-22 [Leelo]: same here

2004-04-22 [Leelo]: nvm I don't now, thought I did(lol)

2004-04-22 [dani california 311]: i am back now

2004-04-22 [Leelo]: wb

2004-04-22 [dani california 311]: huh?

2004-04-22 [Aashild]: Hullo! Hey, noone but me has commented on my wiki, and I feel unloved! Please say something! TheOceanSociety

2004-04-22 [Blaze the Nameless]: I did! You're always loved by me!

2004-04-22 [Blaze the Nameless]: Okay, Aia. I'm here

2004-04-22 [Aashild]: OH! Sorry! My aunt just e-mailed me, I fowarded her that virus email you sent me. The email itself is a virus! DELETE IT!!!!!! Warn your other friends that u sent it to!!!

2004-04-23 [Blaze the Nameless]: Okay!

2004-04-23 [Aashild]: Moo!

2004-04-23 [Aashild]: I appreciate both of you joining my wiki! I'll add you!

2004-04-23 [Blaze the Nameless]: I'm on the PPP site

2004-04-23 [flaed]: Just so you know, Members was misspelled for the members page...to add yourself

2004-04-23 [Blaze the Nameless]: Okay, that was random.

2004-04-23 [Leelo]: What??? You sent viruses to people?! You didn't send any to me, did you?!

2004-04-23 [Blaze the Nameless]: No! I didn't know it was a virus! Next time I am deleting something if I get a forward like that!

2004-04-23 [Leelo]: ok, well i figured that you didn't know, I was just wondering if you sent it to me.*smiles*

2004-04-23 [dani california 311]: ok then......

2004-04-23 [Leelo]: anywho

2004-04-23 [dani california 311]: hey!

2004-04-23 [Leelo]: Hey^^

2004-04-23 [dani california 311]: was up?

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